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In the genealogy that follows I can only be sure of the Orr family descent starting with John Orr Sr., who emigrated to America from Ireland at the end of the 18th century. I do not know who his father or mother were, but most sources agree that he was from Antrim county, Ireland and born in 1775. The surname is also rendered as Oar, Oare, Ore, Orey, Orie, Orr, Orrand, Orren, Ory, and Orreby.
The Orr Family of Scotland and Ireland
The Orr family of Ireland is usually described as originating from a Scottish family that emigrated there from Beith, Ayrshre, Scotland. They settled in County Down and some of them later migrated to County Antrim where they are found in the 18th century. Note that the name Orr is common in Ireland only in Ulster, or Northern Ireland, and found mainly in county Antrim, Down, Londonderry and Tyrone.
See also Orr Name Study for more on the family's Scottish background."The Orrs had their origin in Scotland as early as the fourteenth century, possibly the thirteenth and took their names as did Brackenrig, Blackwood, Forest and hundreds of other families from the lands on which they lived. They are largely to be found in Renfrewshire, where there are thirteen hundred bearing the name. They are chiefly of Presbyterian faith but some are Episcopalians and in the Cathedral at Glasgow there is a memorial window to William Orr.
The first recorded evidence of the Orrs in Ireland is of those who came from Scotland with Sir Hugh Montgomery in 1606, who crossed to Ireland for the purpose of settlement in North Down on lands ceded to him by one of the great O'Neill family. In Charles A. Hanna's History of the Scotch Irish, Vol. I, Page 496, is given the genealogy of James Orr, of Bullyblack, who died in 1627 and of Jane Clement, his wife, who died in 1636. From it I quote: 'The descendants, male and female, of this worthy couple were very numerous and as their intermarriages have been carefully recorded, we have thus fortunately a sort of index to the names of many other families of Scotch settlers in the Ards and Castlereagh.'" - from a paper read May 28, 1903 by John G. Orr of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania before the Kittochtinny Historical Society .
The Hamilton & Montgomery Settlement of Ulster
The counties of Antrim and Down, the two closest to Scotland, were not part of the later Plantation of Ulster. They were the focus of a privately funded settlement by two Ayrshire Scots, James Hamilton and Hugh Montgomery. They had received land in those counties as a reward for getting a pardon from James I for the local chieftain, Con O'Neill. Starting in May 1606 Hamilton and Montgomery settled over 10,000 lowland Scots in these areas offering cheap rents. |
He married R. Janet Betune.
James Orr was born in Beith, Scotland in about 1580. Beith is a small town lying in the Garnock valley, 20 miles southwest of Glasgow, near the Firth of Clyde, in the north of Ayrshire. While still in Scotland James married Janet McClement.
"When James Orr was born about 1580, in Scotland, United Kingdom, his father, John Orr, was 26 and his mother, R Janet Bethune, was 30. He had at least 1 son with Janet McClement. He died in 1627, in Ballybackagh, County Galway, Ireland, at the age of 47, and was buried in Newtownards, County Down, Ireland." - from James Orr.
James is the earliest known Orr recorded in Ulster, Ireland. In 1607, as part of the Montgomery settlement, James and his wife, both Presbyterians, moved to Northern Ireland and settled in Ballyblack, just to the east of Newtownards, on the Ards penisula in county Down. James Orr, of Bullyblack [sic], died in 1627. Jane Clement [sic], his wife, died in 1636. They appear to be the forebears of all the Orr's of Ireland. James Orr's descendents are traced in "Ulster Pedigree" by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh. Unfortunately he does not address our line of the Orr family.
James Orr had sons,
(16) James Orr Jr. (c1601)
(14) John Orr of Beith, Scotland (1550) (15) James Orr (c1580)
His family remained in the Ards penisula. He died in Ballyblack, county Down, Ireland in 1663.
- (17) James Orr III (1623)
His family migrated to counties Armagh and Donegal.
County Antrim is located north of the Belfast Lough. The town of Antrim sits close to the north eastern corner of Lough Neagh. Its industries were farming and weaving, using the hand-loom. Most of the land around Antrim was owned by the Massereene family of Antrim castle. In the 1790s the 2nd Earl Massereene was both eccentric, and perhaps insane, and deeply in debt.
There are several Orrs mentioned in the Hearth Money Rolls (HMR) and Poll Tax Returns for County Antrim 1660 - 1669.
William Orr (2) Antrim Town 1666 and 1669 HMR. Widow Orr, Parish of Raloo, townland of Ballywillin. 1669 HMR(19) Samuel Orr of Kilbegs (c1710)
Robert Orr, Parish of Raloo, townland of Ballyrickard More. HMR 1669.
Pat Ore, Parish of Ballymoney, townland of Ballymoney. 1666 and 1669 HMR
John Ore, Parish of Ballymoney, townland of Greenshields 1669 HMR.
Pat Oar,Parish of Billy, townland of Liscolman. 1660 Poll Tax.
John Ore, Parish of Kilwaughter, townland of Ballykeel,1666 and 1669 HMR.
John Oure, Parish of Larne, townland of Larne Town,1669 HMR.
John Orre, Parish of Finvoy, townland of Knockans.1669 HMR.
John Orr, Parish of Ballinderry, townland of New Park. 1669 HMR.
Kilbegs was the Orrs' home farm. Samuel married Agnes Michael or Mitchell. He died in 1767. His sons were,
(20) William Orr, died young
(20) James Orr of the Creavery (c1740)
(20) John Orr of The Folly (c1740)
(20) Samuel Orr of Kilbegs (c1740)
(20) Joseph Orr, went to England
The Creavery is about three miles from Kilbegs and is north of Antrim. James married Eliza Orr. James died in 1797. His children were,
(21) John Orr of the Creavery (1769)
(21) Robert Orr of the Creavery (1773)
(21) William "Rebel" Orr of the Creavery (1774)
(21) Nancy Orr
(21) Eliza Orr
A farmer and blacksmith. Implicated in the United Irishmen. He may have been in danger of arrest, though whether the John Orr cited for arrest was himself or his uncle John of The Folly is unknown.
"Many from County Antrim contrived to flee to the USA by an escape route which was soon established with the connivance of at least two magistrates. John Orr of Creavery availed of this to flee to America on 15 July 1798. He was 29 years old." - from "Remembering All the Orrs" by R.H. FoyAnd,
"John Orr escaped from Islandmagee to America. In his diary William Orr simply states, "July 15th 1798 Brother escapes to America"." - from "Remembering All the Orrs" by R.H. FoyIslandmagee is a penisula on the east coast of county Antrim. (21) Robert Orr of the Creavery (1773)
Nothing is known of Robert.
(21) William "Rebel" Orr of the Creavery (1774)A watchmaker. Falsely implicated in the Rising of 1798. Transported to Botany Bay, Australia in 1799. He was pardoned in 1805, but had already escaped aboard an American ship. He made his fortune in Penang and returned to county Antrim where he married, but died childless.
(20) John Orr of The Folly (c1740)The Folly was a farm about a mile outside Antrim in the townland of Bleerick. John was a farmer and a mason. He married FAnny Carson of Killead. With the deaths of his brothers in 1796 and 1797,
"John Orr was left as the only surviving son of the first Samuel Orr of Kilbegs and was the most senior member of the Orr clan around Antrim. As such he was an uncle to William Orr of Farranshane, Samuel Orr at Kilbegs and John Orr and William Orr at Creavery. Like each of them he was deeply involved with the United Irishmen . . ." - from "Remembering All the Orrs" by R.H. FoyAfter the failure of the rising, John was threatened with arrest and remained in hiding until August 1789, when he gave himself up. He was tried at a court-martial in November, found guilty, and executed. This John Orr then might have been 'our' John's uncle. His children were,
He married Ellen Harper by 1798 and farming at Harp Hill in the townland of Hurtletoot, directly behind the farm of his cousin, William Orr, in Farranshane. Samuel died in 1807.
(21) James Orr (c1770)Nothing is known of James.
(20) Samuel Orr of Kilbegs (c1740)
He married Alice. He died in 1796. His children were,
(21) William "Remember" Orr of Farranshane (1766)
(21) James Orr of Cranfield (1770)
(21) Samuel Orr of Kilbegs (1774)
(21) Nancy Orr
(21) Sarah Orr
(21) Eliza Orr
(21) Jane Orr
Inherited land in Toome and Farranshane. He married Isabella Greer in 1788. The Orrs of Antrim were noted members of the United Irishmen.
"William Orr (1766-1797) [of Antrim town] was a member of the United Irishmen who was executed in 1797 in what was widely believed to be a judicial murder and whose memory led to the rallying cry “Remember Orr” during the 1798 rebellion."William had been accused of administering the United Irish oath to two soldiers in breach of the Insurrection Act. He was executed in 1797. (21) James Orr of Cranfield (1770)
The others side of Randalstown. He married Charity Mulligan. He played no role in the uprising of 1798.
(21) Samuel Orr of Kilbegs (1774)He married Mary Redmond in 1792. He purchased Faranshane after his brother's death.
The insurgents took up arms and faced British government armies in Wexford, Wicklow, Kildare, Mayo and Antrim.
The United Irishmen
The Society of United Irishmen, also simply known as the United Irishmen, were a sworn society in the Kingdom of Ireland formed in the wake of the French Revolution to secure "an equal representation of all the people" in a "national government." Originally desiring only reform of British rule, after their organization was outlawed they began to work for Irish independance. While its founding members were Ulster Presbyterians, Catholics were brought in to broaden support. The Revoution of 1798 The United Irishmen made plans for a rebellion in 1798. The principal conspirators were arrested in advance of the uprising, and the meagre aid provided by France came too late to be effective. Only in County Wexford did the rebels make any gains, but they were unable to hold the area, and the rebellion collapsed. The Battle of Antrim was fought on 7 June 1798 in County Antrim between British troops and Irish insurgents led by Henry Joy McCracken. The British won the battle, beating off a rebel attack on Antrim town following the arrival of reinforcements. See The Battle of Antrim at Wikipedia. Over 30,000 people, mostly peasant men, women and children, were wiped out in a frenzy of battles, murders, reprisals and counter-reprisals in one of the bloodiest and most dramatic events in Irish history. In the sea-going Aubrey-Maturin novels, it is the 1798 uprising in which Dr. Maturin was involved. |
I don't know if our John was a insurgent seeking to escape the roundups that followed the rising, but the timing was right, see below. See "Remerbering All the Orrs", the story of the Orr families of Antrim an their involvement in the 1798 Rebellion.
The First Wave of Irish Immigrants
The first significant influx of Irish immigrants to America began in the early 18th century and consisted primarily of Ulster Presbyterians, otherwise known as the Scots-Irish. Pressures to emigrate included discrimination against Catholics and non-Anglicans as well as poor harvests and rising rents. A number of Presbyterian ministers promoted the move and led their congregations to America. Over 200,000 fled the north of Ireland between 1700 and 1775. From 1750 to 1775 most Ulster immigrants went via Philadelphia into the mid-Atlantic states due to greater land and employment opportunities. They settled first in what is today Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. Later they pushed into the western Pennsylvania counties of Westmoreland, Fayette, Washington, Greene, and Allegheny. It is said that no Scotch-Irish family felt comfortable until it had moved at least twice. There were five great waves of Scots-Irish emigration, with a lesser flow in intervening years: 1717-1718, 1725-1729, 1740-1741, 1754-1755, and, finally, 1771-1775. The migration peaked between the 1750s and the early 1770s, with an estimated 14,200 people from Northern Ireland reaching America during the 1750s, 21,200 during the 1760s, and 13,200 during the first half of the 1770s. The American Revolution temporarily halted Ulster immigration, but it picked up again after 1783. The Irish Revolution of 1798, and its failure, pushed many more out of the island. Popular histories of Pennsylvania’s Scots-Irish associate them mostly with the expansion of the colonial frontier, where, as prototypical American backwoodsmen, they built log cabins, farmed and traded, wove flax into linen, distilled whiskey, and fought Native Americans. Generally profiled as stubbon and free-spiritied, if not violent; traits they probably adopted in response to their overlords' behavior in Ulster. |
Possibly the father of John Orr, below, per a lead in Familysearch.org. His wife was Sarah Byers, also born in about 1750.
(21) John Orr Sr. (1775)My 3rd Great-Grandfather. John Orr was "b. in County Antrim, Ireland" on 3 August 1775; that is, his date of death, "Aug 5 1845" minus his age at death, "70 ys. 2 ds." - from the "Historical Collections of Harrison County" by Charles A. Hanna, 1900. So, this is a date based on memories that were 70 years old; there are no birth records for John. However, another source that contains a biography of John's grandson, Jefferson Orr, says that John Orr Sr.,
"was born in Scotland, but was reared in Ireland." - from "Biographical and Memorial Edition of the Historical Encyclopedia . . ." by Newton Batesman and Paul Selby, 1915This probably only indicates a Scottish heritage, vice birth. Others have indicated that John is related to the Orr family of Creavery [Creevery], county Antrim. That is, he was (21) John Orr of the Creavery (1769). However this man is six years too old to be our John. Creevery is about 4 miles north of Antrim.
John emigrated to America in the late 1790s. He may have been accompanied to America by a brother according to some sources, without citation.
I expect that John Orr initially settled somewhere not too distant from his port of arrival, taking a job as a farm laborer. Lancaster county, west of Philadelphia, was a hotbed of Scots-Irish settlement and supported a number of Presbyterian churches. John would have looked to church leaders for advice, support, and . . . to find a wife.
John Orr, 24, married Elizabeth Geisler, 17, in 1799 in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. Elizabeth, the daughter of William Geisler, of German descent, was born on 25 March 1782 in Pennsylvania. Elizabeth had been orphaned at the age of 8. Her foster parents and church leaders would have been eager to find her a husband to take her off their hands.
There are many John Orrs recorded in the censuses of Pennsylvania. I expect the John moved west along the Forbes Road, see map below. It went west from Philadelphia through Lancaster county, into the Cumberland valley, and through Fayette and Westmoreland counties into Pittsburgh. All of these regions were hotbeds of Scots-Irish settlement.
The family later settled in Deersville, Harrison county, Ohio where they farmed. The county is due west of Pittsburgh, where the Forbes trail ended.
The following is probably not our man. In the 1820 census of Nottingham township, Harrsion county, Ohio as John Orr. In the household were: Males- 3 under 10, 2 under 16, 2 over 45 (John would have been 45), Females- 1 under sixteen, 1 under 45. There was a John Orr in Nottingham township in 1840 while our John Orr was in Deersville township at the same time. There was another John Orr in German township. The Nottingham and German township men were still alive in 1850.
In the 1830 census of Deersville township, Harrison county, Ohio as John Orr . . .
John petitioned to become a citizen of the United States. It is not certain that the following is for our John Orr:
Name: John Orr Birth Place: Ireland Court District: Pennsylvania Date of Action: 8 Oct 1832 - from U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992The document below contains the following statement,
"That your petitioner was residing within the limits, and under the jurisdiction of the United States, between the twenty-ninth day of January, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-five, and the eighteenth day of June, one thousand seven hundren and ninety-eight . . ."These dates refer to the dates of ratification of two subsequent naturalization laws. The first increased the period of required residence in the US from two to five years before citizenship could be conferred. The second increased that period to fourteen years. A third bill, signed in 1802, cut the residency back to five years and included a statement, identical to that cited above. Those who met the statement's delimits "may, within two years after the passing of this act, be admitted to become a citizen . . ." Based on this, John Orr must have been in the country no later than 18 June 1798. John Orr of the Creevery, above, did not take ship from Ireland until a month later, so he could not be our John Orr. This also means that John could have been naturalized by 1804, or 1832.
In the 1840 census of Deersville, Harrison county, Ohio as John Orr Senr., 60-70 years old; John would hae been 65. There was one woman living with him, 50-60 years old; Elizabeth would have been 58.
John died in Harrison county, Ohio on 5 August 1845 at the age of 70.
"John Orr, b. in County Antrim, Ireland; d. Aug. 5, 1845; 70y. 2d." - from "Historical Collections of Harrison County, in the State of Ohio" by Charles Augustus HannaJohn was buried in the Deersville cemetery.
"John Orr came to America in the late 1700's and was united in marriage with Elizabeth Geisler in Lancaster CO., Pa. in 1799. She was born in Lancaster Co. March 25, 1782. They later traveled west to Harrison Co., Ohio and settled near Deersville. They were the parents of five children. It was here that John Orr, Sr. passed Aug. 5, 1845, and was buried in Deersville cemetery." - from 1900 Harrison Co., Ohio Historical Collections of Charles A. Hanna
In the 1880 census of Fairmount, Pike county, Illinois as Elizabeth Orr, a 98 year old widow, of Pennsylvania. She was living with her son, John, and grandson, William.
Elizabeth died on 25 February 1883 in Pike county, Illinois.
"Elizabeth Orr, wife of John, b. March, 1782; d. Feb. 25 1883; 99y. 11m." - from "Historical Collections of Harrison County, in the State of Ohio" by Charles Augustus HannaElizabeth was buried in the Deersville cemetery.
In 1852, "Grandma Orr", as Elizabeth was familiarly known, accompanied her son, John Jr., and his wife, Ary Moore Orr, and their ten children to Pike Co., Illinois where they located in Fairmount township on the farm known as the Mart Orr place, now owned and occupied by Mr. and Mrs. Ralph J. Orr. Elizabeth Orr lived her with her son, John, moved to Mt. Sterling, she continued to live on the home place with her grandson, William Orr and family. It was here that she passed away, Feb. 23, 1883, at nearly 101 years of age. She was taken back to Deesville, Ohio and buried beside her husband." - from 1900 Harrison Co., Ohio Historical Collections of Charles A. Hanna
. . ."Died Sunday, February 25, at the home of William Orr, in Fairmount township, Elizabeth Orr, aged one hundred years and eleven months. Elizabeth Geisler was of German parentage, born in Lancaster Co., Penn., March 25, 1782, was united in marriage to John Orr in the year 1799. Five children were born unto them. Two of her sons, John and Thomas, survived their mother. She with her husband and young family removed to Harrison Co., Ohio and there she buried her husband in the cemetery at Deersville in the month of September 1846. (1845)
About twenty-six years ago she followed her children to the west, making her home with her sons and grandsons, the greater part of the time living in Pike County. John Orr and family will take her remains to Ohio and on Sunday, March 18, she will be laid beside her husband who preceeded her in the spirit world thirty-seven years.
An eventful life has gone out of our midst, and when we consider that she lost her eyesight in 1859 and remained blind until 1875 when her sight began to return, the remarkable activity and mental vigor the last decade are surprising. She died in possession of all her faculties. She was born while the colonies were still contending for American liberties, and as if the troublous times were not enough, her parents were taken from her and she was left an orphan of tender years. At the age of eight years she gave herself to the Lord and became a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church only six years after its organization in America, and was baptized by Bishop Asbury, the first Bishop of American Methodism. In relating these circumstances to the writer only a short time before her death with a trembling voice, she told of the class of ten or more that were baptized at the same time. She stood at the end of the class, and when the Bishop came to her, she was so small that he asked her age. She answered "Eight years old and an orphan." The tears ran down the good Bishop's face as he took her in his arms, and while the congregation bowed he prayed for her and commended her to the orphan's God, and then sprinkled the waters of consecration on her brow. She said, "The prayer has been answered, and the promise is unto me for He has been a father to the orphan, and a husband to the widow."
Her Christian life extending over ninety-two years has been a bright joyous reality, and it is the testimony of those who have been with her most, that her faith was unwavering, that she found God a present help in time of need, and while the world seemed to recede from her, her love for Zion grew stronger. It was manifested by such eager questions as "How is the church prospering?" and "Are our lawmakers men of God?" As we stand in the presence of our dead, we realize that "God buries his workmen, but carries on his work." - from the March 8, 1883 issue of the Pike Co. Democrat, Pittsfield, Illinois
Their children were,
(22) Eleanor Orr (1806)
(22) William Patrick Orr (1808)
(22) Susannah Orr (1809)
"He [Matthew Simpson, born in Harrison county, Ohio on 13 Nov. 1807] was first married April 19, 1827, to Susannah Orr, by whom he had 7 children,--Margaret J., Mary, Isabella, Thomas, John, James and Alexander, twins, and deceased. He married afterward Mrs. Susan Pryor, and they had 2 children." - from the "History of Pike County, Illinois"(22) John Orr Jr. (1810)
William was born on 6 April 1808 in Lancaster [Southampton, Franklin county], Pennsylvania. He, like his brother John, below, moved to Harrison county, Ohio and bought land there.
"William Orr, Harrison county, W1/2 NW 24.11.6, Nov. 1, 1830." - from "Historical Collections of Harrison County, in the state of Ohio" by Charles Augustus Hanna
William married Anna Derrough [Darrough, Derrah, Darrah], of Ohio on 9 August 1832 in Harrison county, Ohio. Anne Darrah was born on 28 August 1815, the daughter of James Darrah and Nancy Ann Kent. Anne's older brother, John, married Elizabeth Orr, but this was not William's sister. This Elizabeth Orr was born in 1799 in Huntingdon county, Pennsylvania, the daughter of James and Margaret Orr. Was this perhaps John's brother from Ireland?
In 1839 William moved to Pike county. No later than 1852 he was living in Griggsville, Illinois where his daughter Isabel was born.
In the 1840 census of Pike county, Illinois as William Orr, aged 20-30 years old [our William should have been 32]. Living with him was a woman of the same age [Anna should have been 24] and a number of children; one boy under 5, one boy 5-10, and 2 girls, under 5.
In the 1850 census of Pike county, Illinois as William Orr, 44. Living with him were his wife, Ann, 35, and children, James, 16, William, 14 (both of Ohio), Nancy, 12, Elisabeth, 9, Mary M., 4, Sarah A., 2, and Thomas H., 0 (of Illinois).
In the 1855 Illinois state census of township 5S, Pike county as William Orr.
In the 1860 census of Derry township, Pike county, Illinois as William Orr, 52, of Pennsylvania. Living with him were his wife, Ann, 44, of Ohio, and children, William Jr., 23, of Ohio, Mary, 14, Sarah, 12, Thomas, 10, Isabel, 7, and Lydia, 5, of Illinois.
He died on 21 June 1887 in Griggsville, Pike county, Illinois [I thought he predeceased his mother, who died in 1883]. Anna died died on 28 April 1896. Both were buried in the Griggsville cemetery, in Pike county. Their children were,
(23) James B. Orr (1833)
"J. B. Orr, farmer, sec. 26; was born in Harrison county, O., Sept. 26, 1833, and is a son of William Orr, of Derry tp., this county. He was brought to Pike county in 1839 by his parents; served 3 years in the late war, in Co. D., 99th Ill. Inf., and participated in the battles of Grand Gulf, Magnolia Hill (or Port Gibson), Champion Hills, Black River, siege and capture of Vicksburg, etc. He was united in marriage Aug. 31, 1854, to Lydia A. Pence, by whom he has had 5 children, namely: Mary A., Herbert S., Jerry J., deceased, Theresa B., Francis M." - from the "History of Pike County, Illinois"(23) William D. Orr (1836), died in 1900
"Oct. 20, 1869, he [Silvester McKee] married Sarah A., daughter of Wm. Orr, of Derry tp." - from the "History of Pike County, Illinois"Sarah Ann died on 19 October 1936 in Newburg, Pike county, Illinois
My G-G-G-Grandfather. John Orr Jr. was born on 4 May 1810 in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. He moved to Harrison county, Ohio with his parents. In 1828 he bought a plot in Harrison county.
"John Orr, Jr., Harrison county, E1/2 NW 24.11.6, April 17, 1828." - from "Historical Collections of Harrison County, in the state of Ohio" by Charles Augustus Hanna
A marriage license was issued on 3 September 1831 to John Orr Jr. and Ary Moore.
"John Orr Junr." married "Arey Moore", the daughter of Alexander Moore, on 8 September 1831 by Joseph Johnson, J.P. - from "Historical Collections of Harrison County, in the state of Ohio" by Charles Augustus HannaAry Moore was born in Pennsylvania in 1811. Her father, Alexander Moore, was born in Maryland in February 1788. Her mother, Sarah Smith, was born in Tennessee in 1789. Both died in Harrison county, Ohio; Alexander in 1873 and Sarah in 1877. The little we know about Alexander and Sarah Moore comes from the biography of their son, Alexander Jr., at "Biographical Review of Cass, Schuyler and Brown Counties, Illinois 1892".
"Alexander Moore, the prominent citizen of Buck Horn township, whose biography it is our pleasure to present to our readers, was born in Harrison county, Ohio, December 23, 1821, son of Alexander and Sarah (Smith) Moore. Alexander Moore Sr., was born in Maryland, but came to Ohio with his parents, when very young, settling in Harrison county. He was one of eight children, and learned the millwright and carpenter trade, but following farming principally, and ran a horse-power mill for many years. He and his parents took up land in Ohio, that was wild and unimproved, and here he lived in a log cabin all his days, dying on the first farm taken up of Government land, in that section, aged eighty-five years. His wife died on the same place when about eighty-eight, she being a native of Tennessee."
In 1852 the family moved to Pike county, Illinois. For the next 22 years they lived in Fairmont township. - from "Biographical and Memorial Edition of the Historical Encyclopedia" edited by Newton Bateman.
In the 1860 census of Fairmount, Pike county, Illinois as John Orr, 50, of Pennsylvania. Living with him was his wife, Ary, 47, and grandsons, David, 21, John A., 19, Jefferson, 17, MK, 16, MS, 15, and TS, 8, all of Ohio.
Ary died on 15 October 1860 and was buried next to John in the Hinman cemetery, see below. John remarried.
In the 1870 census of Pike county, Illinois as John Orr, 60, of Pennsylvania. Living with him were Margarette Orr, 44, of New York, Jefferson Orr, 27, Frank Orr, 18, and Jasper Orr, 21, all if Ohio, and his mother, Elizabeth, 86, of Pennsylvania.
In the 1880 census of Fairmount, Pike county, Illinois John Orr, 70, of Pennsylvania was living with his son, William, as was his mother, Elizabeth, 98, also of Pennsylvania. John was listed as divorced, pretty rare in those days, with a father no longer living who had been born in Ireland.
John later lived with his son, Frank, in Mr. Sterling.
John Orr died on 3 June 1890 in Mt. Sterling.
John Orr Jr. was buried in the Hinman cemetery, Griggsville, Pike county, Illinois."John Orr, was born in Lancaster county, Pa., May 4, 1810, and removed with his parents to Harrison county, O., in boyhood. Here he was married to Miss Ary (??) Moore and soon afterward moved to a farm near Deerville, O., where they resided until 1853 and where ten children, two daughters and eight sons were born to them.
. . .He came with his family to Pike county, Illinois, settling in Fairmount township, where he made his home for twenty-two years. Subsequently he took up his abode in Mount Sterling, where his death occurred on the 3d of June, 1890. His wife had died in October, 1860, and thus he survived her for almost a third of a century. They reared a family of ten children, of whom the subject of this review is the seventh in order of birth. One son, Albert, was killed at the battle of Jackson. Mississippi, while serving as a member of the Forty-first Illinois Infantry in defense of the Union. Most of the other members of the family are still residents of Illinois." - from Biographies of Pike county, Illinois
They had eight sons and two daughters,
(23) Sarah Orr (1831), born 6 December 1831 in Harrison county, Ohio; married George Seaborn; died 17 May 1910 in Brown county, Illinois
"Sara Orr, b. 6 December 1831 at Deerville, Harrison County, Ohio; d. 3:00 A.M. 17 May, 1910 in Buckhorn Township, Brown County, Illinois, following a stroke of paralysis; buried at Morrellville Cemetery (White Oak Springs), Brown County, Illinois; funeral services at the family home on 19 May, 1910; d/o John and Ary Moore Orr, their first child.(23) David Orr (1832), married Nancy Morrell, then Elmira Morrell; died on 5 April 1917 in Brown county, Illinois
John and Ary Moore Orr brought their family to Fairmount Township, Pike County, Illinois in 1852; he died 3 June, 1890 and she died 15 October, 1860; both are buried in Hinman Cemetery, Pike County, Illinois; they were the parents of ten (10) children and the name of each child with date of birth is listed on the back of the tombstone; Elizabeth Geisler Orr, mother of John, also came to Illinois in 1852; she died in Brown County, Illinois in 1883 near the age of one hundred years." - from "The Seabourn Family" by D.S. Mink
"Jefferson Orr. Mr. Orr is at present the State's Attorney. As a lawyer and as a man of integrity and ability he ranks high." - from the "History of Pike County, Illinois"(23) Mariah K. Orr (1844), born on 21 April 1844 in Harrison county, Ohio; married James Alexander Noble; died on 24 May 1935 in Pratt county, Kansas
"Hon. Jefferson Orr, a prominent member of the Pittsfield bar, who in the practice of his profession has made consecutive advancement until he occupies a position in the foremost rank among the leading lawyers of western Illinois, was born in the vicinity of Deersville, Harrison county, Ohio, on the 2Oth day of July, 1842, his parents being John and Ary (Moore) Orr, the latter a daughter of Alexander Moore, a resident of Ohio. John Orr was born in Pennsylvania in the year 1810 and was of Scotch descent, his father, John Orr, Sr., being a native of Scotland although reared in Ireland. All of the children of John Orr, Sr. were born after he immigrated to the U.S. The birth place of unknown female Orr, William Orr, Susannah Orr, John Orr Jr., and Thomas N. Orr is listed as Lancaster Co., PA."
"Frank Orr, the present circuit clerk of Brown county, is a native of Ohio, and was born in Harrison county of that State, on the 8th of September, 1852. His father was named John Orr. The maiden name of his mother was Ary Moore. The subject of this sketch was the youngest of ten children. In 1853, when Mr. Orr was less than a year old, the family removed from Ohio to Pike county, in this State, and settled on a farm in the northern part of that county . . ." - from the "Combined History of Schuyler and Brown Counties, Illinois"(23) William Orr (1833)
My G-G-Grandfather. William was born on 16 January 1833 in Harrison county, Ohio. In the 1850 census . . .
In 1853 the family moved to Pike county, Illinois. In the 1860 census . . .
William married Nancy Adeline A. New [Neru], the daughter of Angus McD[onald] New and Katherine Leib [Lieb, Laib], on 28 February 1856 in Brown county, Illinois. She was born on 8 January 1838 in Missouri. Angus was born in 1805, the son of James Harrison New and Nancy McDonald. Angus married Citty Leib on 13 May 1830 in Morgan county, Illinois. Kitty Leib, the daughter of Daniel Leib and Polly Tunnel, was born on 30 November 1812 in Pennsylvania [Tennessee] and died in 1847-49.
In the 1870 census of Pike county, Illinois as William Orr, 35, of Ohio. Living with him were his wife, Adeline, 30, and children Amy, 12, Jefferson, 10, Albert, 8, Lucy, 6, and Charles, 3, all of Illinois.
In the 1880 census of Fairmount, Pike county, Illinois as William Orr, 49, of Ohio. Living with him were his wife, Nancy, 48, of Missouri, and children, Jeff, 20, Albert, 18, Luise [Lucy], 15, Charles, 12, and William, 6, all of Illinois. Also living with William were his father, John, 70, of Pennsylvania, and his grandmother, Elizebeth, 98.
Willam died on 23 January 1915 in Brown county, Illinois. Nancy Adeline died on 28 September 1915 in Brown county. William and his wife were buried in the Buckhorn cemetery in Brown county, Illionois.
Their children were,
(24) Ary Ann Orr
(24) Jefferson Orr (1859), he was born on 24 November 1854 to William Orr and Adeline New, he homesteaded in Nebraska
(24) Albert Orr
(24) Lucy Orr (1864)
(24) Ralph Orr
(24) Charles Orr
(24) William Orr
(24) Angus New Orr
My Great-Grandmother. Lucy Orr was born on 18 September 1864 in Brown county, Illinois. In the 1870 census of Brown county, Illinois as Lucy, aged 6, the daughter of William and Adeline Orr. She married (24) George Washington Six (1861), the son of James Six, on 20 June 1881 in Palmyra, Marion county, Missouri.
It appears that George and Lucy eloped. Palmyra is just over the state line about 50 miles west of Mt. Sterling, Illinois. According to family tradition, the Orr family wasn't overjoyed with the marriage - after all, they were a quite prominent family in Brown and Pike counties, and pretty young Lucy was only 16 years old and George 20.
"Grandpa Jim owned about 160 acres in northern Pike county just south of Morrellville, where all of the children were raised and schooled. They were farmers and probably of the Methodist Episcopal faith and members of the White Oak Methodist Church in Morrellville. It was there that his son, George Washington Six, courted Lucy Orr prior to their marriage in 1881.
The Orrs were prosperous farmers and lived within a mile of the James Six family. James was also a successful farmer in the Morrellville area and a few years prior to his death in 1911 transferred his land to his children, retaining a life interest for himself and Rhoda. "He died March 29, 1911 at his home, one mile northeast of Morrellville, following a surgical operation for removal of the prostate gland. He was thought to be improving after the operation, but pneumonia developed, causing his death."
The house in which he and Rhoda lived and he underwent surgery and died is still occupied and in good repair in 1996. James Six is buried next to his second wife, Sarah Jane, and near Lucinda, Rhoda, and one son, John P. Six, in the Morrellville (formally known as White Oak) Cemetery in southwestern Brown county. Son George, his wife Lucy, and grandson George Loren Six, of Selma, Iowa, were among those attending the funeral. (Written by Richard E. Six, gt grandson, Lee's Summit, Missouri)." - from my cousin, Richard Six.
Their daughter, (25) Lena May Six (1894), married my grandfather, (25) Leo Worth Hissem (1891).
(22) Thomas Napoleon Orr (1811)Thomas Napoleon Orr, the son of John Orr Sr. and Elizabeth Geisler, was born on 4 November 1811 in Lancaster, Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. He married Caroline Judith Sudduth on 4 April 1837 in Harrison county, Ohio. Caroline was born in 1821 in Harrison county, Ohio.
"My missing relative was Thomas Orr. I descend from John Orr, Sr., born August 3, 1775, in County Antrim, Ireland and Elizabeth Geisler Orr, born March 25, 1782 in Lancaster Co., PA." - from "Heritiage Quest: HQ" Issues 20-22, page 51
In 1850 they were living in Washington township, Adams county, Indiana. In 1860 they were living in Hazle [sic?] Green township, Delaware county, Iowa; census confirmed that Thomas was born in Pennsylvania. In 1870 Thomas and Irene were living in Christian, Illinois with Alphi Omega, 10, and Olive Sultana, 8.
Thomas and Caroline had nine children. Their 4 oldest sons all fought in the Civil War. Caroline died in 1858 and Thomas then married Electia Irenia [Electra Irena] Main Robinson on 12 July 1858. She was born on 15 June 1824 in Indiana.
Electia was born in 1824 and died in 1897. She was a widow with one daughter. They had two children. Thomas died on 31 March 1897 and was buried in the Forest Park cemetery in Anthony, Harper county, Kansas.
I recently received an email from an Orr descendant who gave me Thomas' middle name and descendants. His children were,
(23) John Burton Orr (1840)
(23) Archibald B. Orr (1842)
(23) Thomas W. Orr (1843)
(23) William Duling Orr (1844)
(23) Caroline C. Orr (1847)
(23) Brice M. Orr (1849)
(23) Mahala N. Orr (1851)
(23) Halaleal Orr (1852)
(23) Grant Orr (1853)
(23) Almira "Almi" V. Orr (1854)
(23) Napoleon Bonaparte "Barney" Orr (1856)
(23) Alpha Omega Orr (1860)
(23) Olive Sultana Orr (1862)
John Burton Orr, the son of Thomas and Caroline J. Orr, was born 21 July 1840 in Harrison county, Ohio. He married Mary E. He enlisted in Iowa on 23 September 1861 and joined Company K, Iowa 12th Infantry Regiment on 25 Nov 1861.Mustered out on 13 May 1862 - from "Roster & Record of Iowa Soldiers in the War of Rebellion." I have information that he was a deserter from this unit, then reenlisted [in another unit?] as John B. Rose. He married Mary Elizabeth Wilcox. He died on 13 October 1912 in Eagle Grove, Wright county, Iowa. His children were,
- (24) Henry William Orr (1866), died in 1947
- (24) Jesse "Chappy" Orr (1879), born 21 June 1879; married Amy Delena Hopkins on 26 May 1906; died 2 April 1973
-- (25) John Bramwell Orr (1907), born in California on 15 July 1907 to Jesse Orr. John Bramwell married Ruby. John Bramwell married Helen Ruth Smith and had 2 children. He passed away on 1980 in El Monte, California. Helen Ruth died in El Monte, California.
--- (26) Gene Dennis Orr (1937), born in Los Angeles, California on 25 Jul 1937 to John Bramwell Orr and Helen Ruth Smith. He married a Bunge. He died in Forrest Hill, California, USA.
---- (27) Unknown Orr (1967), born in Sacramento, California on 19 Oct 1967 to Gene Dennis Orr and Private Bunge. He died in Los Angeles, California.
--- (26) Lyle K. Orr (1939), born in 1939 in California
-- (25) William Robert Orr (1910), born in Wright, Iowa on 12 Janaury 1910; served in WWII, deployed to Azores; married Veronica Jean Gornic on 13 February 1947 in Dawson, Texas; married Bennie McKinley Murray on 25 July 1953 in Clark county, Nevada; died on 7 January 1993 in Grants Pass, Oregon.
--- (26) Iona Orr (1949), born in Alhambra, California; she married an Eastman
-- (25) Russel C. Orr (1913), born 23 October 1913; died 28 February 1984.
- (24) Lottie Bell Orr (1883), she married a Thorn; died in 1938.
- (24) Jennie Irene Orr (1886), she married a Nichols; died inn 1949.
Archibald B. Orr, the son of Thomas and Caroline J. Orr, was born in 1842 in Ohio. He was killed in Williamson county,Tennessee in 1863. This sounds like the Battle of Franklin, fought on 10 April 1863, a minor engagement in about the same location as the more famous Battle of Franklin, in 1864, part of the Franklin-Nashville Campaign.
The Battle of Franklin
"The 1863 engagement at Franklin was a reconnaissance in force by Confederate cavalry leader Maj. Gen. Earl Van Dorn, coupled with an equally inept response by Union Maj. Gen. Gordon Granger. Van Dorn advanced northward from Spring Hill, Tennessee, on April 10, making contact with Federal skirmishers just outside Franklin. Van Dorn's attack was so weak that when Granger received a false report that Brentwood to the north was under attack, he believed it and sent most of his cavalry northward thinking that Van Dorn was undertaking a diversion.
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Thomas W. Orr, the son of Thomas Orr and Caroline J. Sudduth, was born in 1843 in Ohio. He served in the Union Army and was captured and held as a POW during the Civil War. He first married Melvina M. Westbrook. She died in 1887. Second he married Josephine Smith in 1890. She died in 1933. Thomas died on 18 December 1908. He was buried in the Ashbury cemetery in Raymond, Montgomery county, Illinois. His children were,
- (24) Emma A. Orr (1864), she married a Harris, she died in 1896
- (24) Walter Orr (1868), he died in 1939
- (24) Thomas A. Orr (1872), he died in 1955
- (24) Archibald Orr (1875), died unknown
- (24) Hallie Agnes Orr (1877), she married a Harris, she died in 1933
- (24) Luella Orr (1884), she married a Poggenpohl, she died in 1962
- (24) Drusey Orr (1886), died in 1887
- (24) Nellie Melvina Orr (1890), she married a McClusky, she died in 1948
- (24) Charles Orr (1893), he died in 1950
Or Duly. William Duling Orr, the son of Thomas and Caroline J. Orr, was born 25 [28] June 1844 in Harrison county, Ohio. William Orr of Ohio was listed twice in the 1860 census of Delaware county, Iowa; first living with Thomas Orr, his father, and second as a 'Laboure' [sic], living with John Farmer and family. He served in the Civil War. William Duly Orr, born 28 June 1844, who enlisted on 12 January 1861 and, later as a Veteran, as a Pvt in company D 63rd Illinois Volunteer Infantry on 10 April 1862, discharged 13 July 1865. Noted to be of Bloomington, Illinois.
The 63rd Illinois Infantry Regiment
Organized at Camp Dubois in Anna, Illinois and mustered in on April 10, 1862. Anna is close to the border with Missouri. It fought in 'Operations against Vicksburg [Central Mississippi Campaign, Siege of Vicksburg], Missionary Ridge (Chattanooga), March to the Sea, Campaign of the Carolinas [Bentonville].' See 63rd Illinois Infantry Regiment History Organized at Camp Dubois, Anna, Ill., and mustered in April 10, 1862. Moved to Cairo, Ill., April 27, 1862. Attached to District of Cairo, Ill., till September, 1862. 4th Brigade, 1st Division, District of Jackson, Tenn., to November, 1862. 4th Brigade, 3rd Division, Right Wing 13th Army Corps (Old), Dept. of the Tennessee, to December, 1862. 3rd Brigade, 3rd Division, 17th Army Corps, to January, 1863. District of Memphis, Tenn., 16th Army Corps, to March, 1863. 4th Briigade, District of Memphis, 5th Division, 16th Army Corps, to May, 1863. Detached Brigade, District of Northeast Louisiana, to June, 1863. 2nd Brigade, 6th Division, 17th Army Corps, to July, 1863. 1st Brigade, 7th Division, 17th Army Corps, to September, 1863. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, 17th Army Corps, to December, 1863. 1st Brigade, 3rd Division, 15th Army Corps, to April, 1865. 2nd Brigade, 4th Division, 15th Army Corps, to July, 1865. SERVICE: Duty at Cairo, Ill., till July 12, 1862. Moved to Columbus, Ky., thence to Jackson, Tenn., August 4, and duty there till November 10. Grant's Central Mississippi Campaign November 10, 1862, to January 10, 1863. Reconnoissance from LaGrange November 8-9, 1862. Duty at LaGrange, Tenn., till May 10, 1863. Burning of Hopewell February 19, 1863 (Cos. "C," "D," "E," "F"). Moved to Vicksburg, Miss., May 10-17. Siege of Vicksburg May 21-July 4. Expedition from Young's Point, La., to Richmond, La., June 14-16. Action at Richmond June 15. Post duty at Vicksburg, Miss., July 5 to September 12. Moved to Helena, Ark., September 12, thence to Memphis, and march to Chattanooga, Tenn., September 28-November 20. Operations on Memphis and Charleston R. R. in Alabama October 20-29. Chattanooga-Ringgold Campaign November 23-27. Tunnel Hill November 24-25. Mission Ridge November 25. Pursuit to Ringgold, Ga., November 26-27. Moved to Bridgeport, Ala., December 3, thence to Huntsville, Ala., December 21-26, and duty there till May, 1864. Regiment veteranize January 1, 1864. Veterans on furlough April 3-May 21. Moved to Triune, Tennessee River, May 23, thence to Huntsville June 15, and to Kingston June 23. Railroad guard duty between Chattanooga and Atlanta till November 11. March to the sea November 15-December 10. Siege of Savannah December 10-21. Campaign of the Carolinas January to April, 1865. Salkehatchie Swamp, S.C., February 2-5. South Edisto River February 9. North Edisto River February 11-12. Columbia February 15-17. West's Cross Roads, S.C., February 25. Lynch's Creek February 25-26. Battle of Bentonville, N.C., March 20-21. Occupation of Goldsboro March 24. Advance on Raleigh April 10-14. Occupation of Raleigh April 14. Bennett's House April 26. Surrender of Johnston and his army. March to Washington, D. C., via Ricbmond, Va., April 29-May 19. Grand Review May 24. Moved to Louisville, Ky., June 3-6. Mustered out July 13, 1865. Regiment lost during service 5 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 4 Officers and 135 Enlisted men by disease. Total 144. |
William Duling Orr married Anna Gilmore of Illinois. In 1900 and 1910 living in Benton township, Ceder county, Missouri. He died on 14 January 1911 in Nevada, Missouri. His children,
(24) Eugene Orr (1875-1882)
(21) John Orr Sr. (1775)
(22) Thomas Napoleon Orr (1811)
(23) William Duling Orr (1844)
Eugene Orr, the son of William Duling Orr and Anna Gilmore [Alice Clay Barfield?], was born on 23 November 1873 in Near Erie NE, Kansas. Eugene Orr, 24, married Mary L. Crane, 21, on 12 February 1903 in Labette county, Kansas.
In the 1910 census of Parsons, Kansas as a 28 year old fireman on the MK&T railroad. Family: Mary L., 28, of Ohio (mother of 2, 1 surviving), and Vernon D., 5, of Kansas.
Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad
Established in 1865 under the name Union Pacific Railway, Southern Branch, it came to serve an extensive rail network in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri. In 1988, it merged with the Missouri Pacific Railroad; today, it is part of Union Pacific Railroad. In the 1890s the MKT was commonly referred to as "the K-T", because for a time it was the Kansas-Texas division of the Missouri Pacific Railroad and "KT" was its abbreviation in timetables as well as its stock exchange symbol. This soon evolved into the nickname "the Katy". |
Eugene Orr registered for the draft in 1918 (I think).
In the 1920 census as a 46 year old locomotive engineer, of Parsons, Kansas. While married, he was alone, lodging on Washington avenue. Mary L. Orr was also in Parsons, on Crawford avenue, with children, Margaret, 9, and Ida L., 5, both of Kansas. Were they estranged? In the 1925 state census Eugene was once again living with Mary and the two girls on Crawford avenue.
In the 1930 census, 55 years old, of Parsons, Labette county, Kansas. His father was born in Ohio, his mother in Kentucky. Family: Mary L., 47, of Ohio, Loraine, 15, of Kansas, Margaret, 19, of Kansas, with Guy A. Peoples, 21, of Missouri, son-in-law.
Also in 1940 census, 66 years old, of Parsons, with Mary. His children were,
-- (25) Francis Orr (1904)
-- (25) Marvin Abraham Orr (1904), died in 1904
-- (25) Vernon Dewitt Orr (1905), of Kansas, he died in 1917 and was buried in the Oakwood cemetery in Parsons, Labette county, Kansas. I think either Francis or Marvin, above, are incorrect as Mary had two children, one surviving, in the 1910 census.
-- (25) Margaret Ellen Orr (1910), of Kansas, she married Guy Alexander Peoples. He died in 1947. Second she married Roger Harvey Thomas, who died in 2005. Margaret died in 1993.
--- (26) Guy Gene Peoples (1931), married Donna Lea Jackson; he died in 2018.
-- (25) Ida Loraine [Lorene] Orr (1914), of Kansas, married Eugene D. Harper; Eugene was born on 30 June 1916 in Iola, Allen county, Kansasa; Ida died in 1985; Eugene died on 12 May 2014 in Parsons, Labette county, Kansas. His obituary,
"Eugene D. "Gene" Harper, 97, of Parsons died at 4:35 p.m. Monday, May 12, 2014, at Elmhaven East nursing home.--- (26) Alan Harper, married Carolyn
He was born June 30, 1916, at Iola to Grenzy and Margaret (Dorris) Harper. He spent his early years in Iola and moved to Parsons at the age of 16. He graduated from Parsons High School in 1936 and attended Parsons Junior College one year.
On Aug. 20, 1939, he married Lorraine Orr in Parsons. She preceded him in death on June 7, 1985.
The Harpers lived in Los Angeles from 1941 to 1955 when he was employed by Rockwell International as a supervisor of aircraft manufacturing. They moved in 1955 to Neosho, Mo., where he worked as general manager of maintenance for Rocketdyne Co. He worked in Tulsa as a foreman of aircraft manufacturing from 1969 to 1971. In 1971 he retired and returned to Parsons.
Gene was a member of Wesley United Methodist Church and had been active in its Criterion Class and with the Tuesday Morning Men. He was a former member of the Parsons Lions Club and the Elks Lodge. He had served as president of the Optimist Club in Parsons and was a past lieutenant governor in that organization. In Neosho he was a member and past patron of the Order of Eastern Star and Masonic Lodge and was active in the Saddle Club and Sheriff's Posse. He had traveled all over the Four-State area on horseback with the 4-H Square Dance Club. Gene enjoyed gardening, stained glass window work and carpentry work.
Survivors include his son, Alan Harper and his wife, Carolyn, of Parsons; a daughter, Mary Margaret Storrs and her husband, Stuart, of Overland Park; five grandchildren; five great-grandchildren; a great-great-grandson; and three stepsisters, Robert Badders of Kansas City, Kan., Freda Johnson of Warrensburg, Mo., and Elizabeth "Bernadene" Yelton of Independence, Mo.
His parents, seven brothers, a sister and two stepbrothers preceded him in death."
Pearl Pauline Orr, of Missouri.
(24) Frank Bonaparte "Boney or Barney" Orr (1889)
Frank Bonaparte "Boney or Barney" Orr, the son of William D. Orr and Anna Gilmore, was born on 14 July 1889 in El Dorado Springs, Cedar county, Missouri; he married Janey [Janie] Morris on 23 November 1910 in Cedar county, Missouri; Frank Boney Orr, a 27 year old car repairer with the M.K.&T. Railway, living in Parsons, Kansas, registered for the draft in Labette, Kansas; he died 11 February 1940 in Stockton, San Joaquin county, California. Shown to be a 'car man W.P.'
-- (25) Hallie [Hollie, Helen] B. Orr (1912), of Missouri, she married Charles H. Epperson
-- (25) Hazel Orr (1918), of Kansas
-- (25) Frank Orr Jr. (1921), of Kansas
Duley [Duly, Dulin, Dooley] Orr, the son of William D. and Anna Orr, was born on 21 September 1891 in Eldorado Springs, Cedar county, Missouri; he married Mary E.; Duly Orr, a 25 year old Air Brake Inspector with the MKT Railroad, living in Parsons, Kansas, registered for the draft.
(24) Edwin Batie Orr (1895)
Edwin Batie Orr, the son of William D. and Anna Orr, was born on 13 August 1895 in Eldorado, Cedar county, Missouri; he married Gladys; Edwin Batie Orr, a 21 year old Ice Man of the Charlie Howard Ice Company, living in Vernon, Missouri, registered for the draft.
-- (25) Pauline P. Orr (1916)
-- (25) Delbert W. Orr (1919), died young, not in 1930 census
-- (25) Edwina Orr (1925)
-- (25) Patricia Ann Orr (1929)
-- (25) Geraldine Orr (1935)
Of Ohio.
(23) Brice M. Orr (1849)Of Indiana, died young.
(23) Mahala N. Orr (1851)Of Iowa.
(23) Halaleal Orr (1852)Of Iowa, died young.
(23) Grant Orr (1853)He died in 1856.
(23) Almira "Almi" V. Orr (1854)Of Iowa.
(23) Napoleon Bonaparte "Barney" Orr (1856)He was born 21 [31] March 1856 in Union township, Delaware county, Iowa; Barney Orr married Eliza Cordelia Dick. Eliza was born on 12 March 1856 in Chandlerville, Cass county, Iowa. Napoleon was a farmer. In 1880 living in Cass, Illinois. In 1900 living in Cowley, Kansas. In 1910 living in Wichita, Kansas. Elizabeth died in 1913. He died on 19 October 1921 in Wichita, Kansas.
"N.B. Orr a former resident of Cowley county, died Wednesday evening at his home in Wichita. Mr. Orr had been ill since last July. He was sixty five years of age at the time of his death. Mr. Orr lived on a farm west of Winfield until ten years ago when he went to Wichita to make his home. He is survived by a daughter, Mrs. Effie Goodwin of Ft. Worth, Texas and a son, Levi Orr of Enid, Oklahoma." - from "The Winfield Daily Free Press" of 22 October 1921Why weren't his sons, Thomas and George, mentioned in the obituary above? His children were,
A son, he was born 17 January 1860 in Hazel Green township, Delaware county, Iowa. He married Ella J. Wilcox.
"My ancestors Thomas Orr, his wife Electra Irene Orr; their son, Alpha Omega Orr & his family came to Harper county in 1883 from Christian county, Illinois. Alpha had a homestead in Lake township; Section 4 from 1884 until I believe 1887. Adjacent to this land on its east edge was land owned by F.B. Wilcox, either his father or brother-in-law? Definitely one or the other. Alpha kept leaving and returning but his parents died there in 1897 & both are buried in Forest Park cemetery. Other family members also settled in Manchester, Grant county, Oklahoma (Orrs & Cotterills) where they died off by the mid 1960's or so. They are also connected to the Pike county, Illinois Orrs; Hardi county, Ohio Cotterills & Christian county, Illinois Wilcoxs."
He died on 16 March 1939 in Salinas, Monterey county, California. His children were,
- (24) Andrew Jefferson Orr (1882)
- (24) Emeline Irena Orr (1886)
- (24) Etta Maude Orr (1889)
- (24) Crissie Inath Orr (1891)
- (24) Ann Orr (1893)
- (24) Pearl Elizabeth Orr (1894)
- (24) Rose Marie Orr (1898)
- (24) Leslie Flynn Orr (1900)
- (24) Hattie Julian Orr (1901)
- (24) Avery N. Orr (1905)
- (24) Howard Elmer Orr (1910)
She was born 29 January 1862 in Macon county, Illinois. She married Charles Francis Schell. She died on 10 August 1924 in Fresno, county, California.