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The family goes by many names, including Mulins, Molinus, Molinex, Molino, Molyneux, Molineux, and Molyneaux. See also Memoir of the Molineux Family by Gisborne Molinuex, 1882.
The De Molyneux Arms: Azure (blue) shield with a cross moline, or. The cross moline is a play on the family's surname.
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Of Moulon, France. The family came from Molineaux-sur-Seine.
(1) William De Moulins (c1030)William Molyneux took part in the Conquest and on the Battle Abbey roll his name stands 18th in order. Lord of the manors of Sephton, Thornton and Keurdon by a grant from Count Roger de Poitou.
(2) William De Moulins (c1060)Lord of Sefton. William Molyneux made Sefton his chief seat and was succeeded by his brother Vivian de Molyneux.
(2) Vivian De Moulins (c1060)
Lord of Sefton as heir to his brother. Roger de Poitou gave him the castle of Liverpool as governor and castelain. He married Sywarde. By her name, I expect she was the daughter of a Saxon lord, married to improve Vivian's ties with the local hierarchy. Maureen and David sent me an email,
"I've just been reading your article regarding the Molyneux family. There is an error concerning Sir Vivian Molyneux that everyone seems to be copying, particularly those who are in another country but the UK.(3) Adam De Molines (1107)
Firstly, it was impossible for Sir Vivian to be govenor of Liverpool Castle as it had not been built until 1232. Yes, Molyneux men were appointed Heridatry Constables of Liverpool castle until its demise in 1726.
Roger de Poitou was appointed over Liverpool and Manchester and built a motte and bailey castle in West Derby for his knights. There was already a form of castle there built by Saxon thanes and taken off them! This castle was built around 1100 by Roger.
West Derby back then was not in Liverpool like it is today.
I just hope this clarifies a few things for you to edit your document."
The son of Vivian and Lord of Sefton. He was born in about 1107. According to the "Memoir of the Molineux Family," Adam married Annora (Annota) de Garnet (or le Garnett) and gained the vill of Speke. She was the daughter of Benedict Gernet. However, I show that she was born in about 1175 and suspect she was the wife of a later Adam de Molyneux.
He had three sons, Robert, Gilbert and Henry.
(4) Robert De Molyneux (1135)The son of Adam, he was born in about 1135. The Lord of Sefton. He married Beatrix (Beatrice) de Villers in about 1153. She was born in about 1138 in Little Crosby, the daughter and heiress of Sir Robert de Villiers, Lord of Little Crosby. Robert became the Lord of Little Crosby. Beatrix had been ambitious to be a queen and was in love with King John [that seems too late]. She was loath to leave him, but was given by the King in marriage in 1158 to Robert, one of his Barons. She bitterly cursed the House of Molyneux and all that bore the name, calling down maledictions of misery, blasting their loves with tragedy. Wouldn't you love her to be your grandmother?
Stephen, Earl of Boulogne, afterwards King, granted Robert the manor of Litherland, in Lancashire for 14s. yearly. He gave the manor of Kuerdon to Siward, son of Anti son of Elsi, in marriage with his sister. Descending from the issue of this marriage were the Earls of Sefton, Ireland, Teversall, and Nottinghamshire.
Robert had two sons, Richard and Simon.
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Alternately, British History Online shows, (3) Robert de Molyneux (c1110)He had three sons, Richard (1164), Robert, and Gilbert de Thornton. (4) Robert de Molyneux (c1140)His sons were Richard, Simon and Robert. (5) Richard de Molyneux (1170)He married a Gernet. He died in 1213. His sons were Vivian, Sir Adam (d.c. 1247) and Robert de Molyneux of Thornton. (6) Sir Adam de Molyneux (1200)His children were Richard, William (d.c. 1289) and Roger of Little Crosby. (7) William de Molyneux (1230)His son was Richard (d.c. 1320). (8) Richard de Molyneux (1260)He married Emma. |
The son of Robert. Of Sefton, Little Crosby and Speke. He married first Edith de Boteler in 1184. Edith was the daughter of Aumary [Alinerice, Emery] de Botiller, of Warrington. They had two sons: Adam and Robert.
Richard later married Emma Davis, and they had six children: William, Thomas, Peter, John, Agnes, and Alice. Alice married her cousin Robert, son of Simon de Molyneux.
Hal Bradley on his web site shows that Edith de Garnette, born in 1163 in Speke, married Richard de Molyneux (1159-1213) in 1184 in Sefton. The Bradley/Opp Ancestry. Richard received two carucates of land in Speke from Roger Gernet in relation to a marriage, but to whom?
(6) Adam de Molyneux (1185)The son and heir of Richard. He was born in Little Crosby about 1185. Adam married Annora (Annota) de Garnet (or le Garnett). She was the daughter of Benedict Gernet, born in about 1175 in Speke, Prescott parish, Lancashire. Or, he married Lettice de Brinley.
In 1228 he had a commission for the perambulation of the forests of Lancaster county. This is the period when the title of Forester of Lancashire was still the hereditary right of the Gernet's. He paid 40 marks to have 'seizin' of the inheritance from his father. He was knighted in 1255. He died in October 1246.
(7) Sir William de Molyneux (c1215)The son of Adam, he was knighted in 1256. He married Margaret, the daughter of Sir Alan de Thornton of the County of Leicester. William was buried in Canterbury Cathedral.
(8) Sir Richard de Molyneux (c1245)(9) Sir William de Molyneux (c1275)
He married Isabel. He was created a knight in 1286, the Order of the Garter, Knight Banneret, Ribbon Garter blue. He died in 1289.
The fer de moline is a common charge in European heraldry. It is called anille in modern French blazon, but the English term clearly comes from the French fer de moulin, meaning millrind. Defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "the iron which supports the upper millstone of a corn-mill, and carries the eye which rests upon the end of the mill spindle". From this charge comes the term Cross moline, a cross, each of the arms of which terminates in two expanded and curved branches resembling the extremities of a mill-rind.